Your trilogy is mythical, where did I say carbon is weak ? where did I say foot retention was bad ? where did I say hi-ten was awesome ? I've argued valid points in every case, not trying to rib you either, but the link I posted, maybe the video was posted from the same link, 2 different stories on the web page wouldn't you say ? I watched the video from the first post, even admitted there was evidence that carbon was durable from it. But after finding the rest of the pics on the web site. I'd have to qualify that now. Might as well tell the whole truth and story rather than dupe someone into believing that carbon can be mistreated and abused ?