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SAAB and Volvo are Chebbies and Porsche is in large part, Toyota.
It sux, yes...But this is the nu wurld order.
The names change but its all the same under the paint

Not quite the same. GM owned SAAB and Volvo and certainly influenced the direction of those car makers for better or worse, but they were distinct car makers that retained their heritage, designs, and a good portion of their facilities and staff. SAAB has since been bought by Spyker.