Originally Posted by adam_mac84

yes, i am torn, because i can get the riding positions nearly the exact (did this at the LBS) by changing stem angle up.down and changing around spacers...

secteur with one spacer removed below and flipped stem can be set up like allez and allez with stem flipped up can get more 'relaxed'.

my century this year was rode with appx 1" drop seat to bars, and i am riding now with about 2" drop. my problem is, on a 61-63cm bike, a non-cut steerer tube doesn't gain much in stack height... basically an allez with an extra spacer or 2 rides similar seat to bar drop to the secteur....

aagghh, bike shopping sucks, especially when i want to try so many different types of riding