merganser, Just for the fun of it I just measured the weight of the two road bikes I usually ride. The two are a CAAD3 and a 2.8 so I think it's a fair comparison... I did screw up and measure the 2.8 with the mini pump still attached.

There is a 3.15 lb. difference between the two using a precision machinist's scale... no real world difference that I can discern in riding.

Brad

PS I was distracted before I could get to your actual question. Most of my bikes have weighed in the 22-24 lb. range, the CAAD3 at 19.1 lbs. is an exception. I think that range, give or take a lb. is about average for any build using at least a mid level group and wheelset.

SJX426, How about without the pump?