Originally Posted by
Oregon Southpaw
Obviously we here in C&V would collectively answer "no", because we're retro-grouches, tight-wads, lug-addicts, steel-admirers, or because we lust after the bikes we couldn't have then. Or, perhaps we don't like the fact that the modern bicycle industry is pretty one-note, over-globalized, obsessed with "progress", too race-oriented, or is becoming increasingly obsessed with planned obsolescence.
I fall into pretty much all of those camps, with the possible exception of lusting after bikes we couldn't have "then".
While I was at my LBS yesterday I decided to check out some of the high-zoot bikes. On one level I appreciate things about them that make them more "useable" - compact cranks, brifters, dual-pivot brakes - are a good example. But with these advances (I use this term loosely) comes the expense, and from what I've heard, lack of durability. I know that (at least to these eyes) modern Dura-Ace looks like crap and simply doesn't scream "timeless" like 7700 era stuff did, for example. I'm also so amazed that a Dura-Ace crank is now like $600. Perhaps the good stuff cost a similar amount then, relative to inflation, but it just seems like the cost of this stuff is pushing people out of the sport.
What I guess I'm getting at here is it seems to me that many of the great 80's-era bikes are/were plentiful and had reasonably bomb-proof equipment on them. I'm always amazed when I see a 600-equipped bike from the early 80's running as good now as it must've back then. Now, roadbikes are much more niche-oriented.
We already have to wade through a sea of crappy MTBs to find a classic roadbike. Now that an entry level roadbike is roughly $1k, and your average hybrid is like $300, what will the C&V of tomorrow look like? I just can't imagine a $5000 Trek ever showing up on a site like this 20 years from now.
Also from a sheer numbers standpoint...how many of these super-bikes actually get produced each year? Seems to me that part of why we had it so good over the last decade or so is the sheer volume of bikes produced around both bike booms. One thing I will not downplay is the tendency of people to buy really expensive bikes...and not ride them.
Thanks for reading this Friday pre-lunch post. I think about this stuff a lot, and hope that this wasn't too jumbled or too much like other "What will C&V be like in a decade?" threads. Moreover, this could also easily be the case of not having lived through the frustration of some of these advances. I have riding buddies who are decided anti-C&V, claiming they lived through this era and the stuff now is just so much better, so much so that I'm pining for a golden age that never existed.
I couldn't disagree more.
As people age the bikes they had back in the day will become of interest to them. And maybe your just speaking for yourself?
I own many (to many) vintage steel bikes the range from the mid 70's to the late 80's. Because thats where vintage ends with me. And this has more to do with my age and taste but everyone is different.
I bought a new carbon "wonderbike" last summer. I've ridden it over 6000kms as of this week and has been completely reliable and durable. Its the bike I choose for a fast century or group ride. My Marinoni Special doesn't even come close although I like the look of it better.
If I were to put 6000kms on any of my vintage rides in a year (even if it were brand new) there is no way the bike would go that far without BB and wheel bearing adjustment or lube. Not to mention and other adjustments.
Sheer numbers? Back in the bike boom there were scads of mass produced bikes everywhere. Touring bikes couldn't be made fast enough.
You may need to embrace a new ride yourself.
Costs? I can't imagine what my Roubaix would have cost in the mid 80's if it could have even been produced for volume sales.