Originally Posted by Spasticteapot

The problem with these is that there simply aren't enough of a given run to reach critical mass, and, as often as not, no reason why you couldn't assemble an identical product out of off-the-shelf parts. While these frames will no doubt remain desirable, they will never appreciate in value - there simply aren't enough of them out there for the nameplate to become desirable.



Quite a lot of rather nice carbon fiber stuff is fabricated in China right now.




Taiwan is, from what I've heard, a lot like China with the insane communist aspects turned down several places. They make a lot of good stuff.

I suspect China's abusive labor policies will keep them in the lead for quite some time. If nothing else, it's the only place on earth where a corrupt autocratic government supports international business.



Materials science says otherwise. A single minor crash - one from which the rider is able to walk away - is enough to damage the weave of a carbon fiber bicycle to the point where it's no longer safe to ride. Furthermore, the resins used will slowly break down over time due to UV exposure and other factors. Carbon fiber is, to put it simply, rather fragile stuff. Unlike a Schwinn Paramount - which, if unridden, will remain factory-fresh for decades - a carbon frame will eventually lose structural integrity sooner or later. While a few immaculately preserved examples will no doubt remain, there won't be an awful lot of them.



Bose is, was, and will always be rubbish. Go buy some proper 70s speakers - goodness knows that between the endless JBLs, KLHs, ARs, and endless others, you're guaranteed to find something much, much better.