Having both, I'll say that the '88/89 Nishiki with Tange 2, 700X23 clinchers, and Shimano 105 everything is as light as my tubular/Campy Record/NR equipped Raleigh pro. Well, maybe 1/2 lb heavier. Spending time on both, I somehow like the Raleigh better, though for no quantifiable reason. The 'Shiki though is a sweet, sweet ride, even though it is considered to be middle-range when it came out.