Ok. Now that Im close to zeroing in on a groupo, when i thought I was set on a frame, Im wondering.

Ive heard the "steel is real" line a thousand times, and used to ride a steel ss. Just as there are dif types of steel (531, 4130 etc?), I believe there are different types of aluminum. 7005 and some other type..6061 i think, but im not sure since Ive never ridden an alum road bike.

Whats the difference which is the higher quality, what are advantages/disadvantages of both, for a beater, every day bike that can take a beating, which would you suggest, assuming I am not buying a steel frame.

Asside from that, anyone got any good steel frames out there to build on? Preferably American