here’s a pic of my butchered b17. I rode it about a year before I cut it. then another year before I tied it. it’s pretty beat but nice and comfy. I keep my bike outside so it sees a lot of *****. I noticed a difference after I butchered it. my legs felt like they had more room to move. then it started sagging and losing it’s shape so I recently tied it. it’s 100% better. once I get around to it I’m going to buy some black leather to replace the white shoelace.