timbuk2 messenger bags are garbage, trust me. Horrible strap design. And uncomfortable. The strap has no padding at all. You can pay an extra $10 or $15 for a strap pad, but it's even worse with the pad on. Since the pad is the ony contact point all the weight is carried on that small section of your body. Just horrible bags.

If you are looking into messenger bags look into chrome, reload, seagull, chicago wig, bailey works, and pac designs. Based on all the research I have done, pac designs and bailey works are the best. With bailey being the best for the money.

All these companies make backpacks also. Along with mission workshop making a super nice bag. And banjo brothers making a very nicely priced commuter bag too.