Tried the melon HEED in the first two hour bottle Saturday, two packets of melon. Didn't think it was too bad, drank about 3/4 of it, then added two scoops of Perpetuem and filled it back up, which also wasn't too bad. Thinking that will be my standard for long rides, along with a few servings of gel in the first two hours. Will try the orange next, thanks.

I've not found any discounted Hammer products, other than some folks on here have a '15% off of your first order' link in their signatures.