So what you're saying is that because the Rivendell frameset costs as much as a Specialized SL frameset it is therefore as complex? I mean the Rivendell frame doesn't even have a warranty, so it must be really complex!

Do we need a PSA to inform all the Cervelo R3 riders how their lives are in danger? Clearly they must all be riding ticking time bombs since their bikes are cheaper AND lighter than Pinarello frames! Good thing Cervelo makes the R5CA frame. That's clearly a safer, more durable product. I mean it is more expensive, and we all know more money is the only thing that will save you from expensive medical care. And $8,500 is pretty cheap. You can't even buy half your teeth for that, which will fall out when your Pinarello Dogma cracks in half. Better to get the R5CA with Di2. Sure, $12,000 sounds like a lot now, but have you seen the prices for a skin graft on your face? Not so expensive now, is it?