I don't touch Apple products with a 10 foot pole. My wife and daughter do. Personally I think they're vastly overpriced. I've tried them and honestly, I like cheaper players better. I'm currently using a Sansa Fuze 8G, I bought it for < $50 on sale and it's the best MP3 player I've ever had. Plus if I drop it and a truck rolls over it, I'm not that upset.