Originally Posted by
NoGaBiker
Do you really think the frame can hold your own lard ass (or mine) plus panniers, but would fall apart if it just has to hold the panniers with a wheel up in the air?
it's a point load on a part of the bike that wasn't constructed with that in mind. I'm not sure I disagree with Surley; a kickstand plate is like a gusset, which are famous for causing tube failures. So heavier chain stays may be in order