Hmm, I suggested in another recent thread that someone who just turned fifty join AARP and had no idea AARP was so controversial ... and I still don't on account of the AARP thread disappeared. Is AARP related to bicycling? ... well http://aarp.duvine.com/?intcmp=ASI-RR-FIT-DUV yes. BTW DuVine looks like they have some very nice tours.