First place in C's is clearly not last place in B's. the guys winning the C races woud probably finish top 10-20 in the B races or atleast thats what our local practices have shown. There are also things to be said about practicing winning races. Some one is always going to win the C races and they can't all be sandbaggers. Sandbagging shouldn't even exist.The rules should be set for each catagory and then you race the lowest level until you win your self out of it. They are force upgrading people around here that are obvously tallented so the system is working just fine. There will always be fast roadies or tri people who start cross each year and wind up being fast.