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Old 05-16-05 | 12:52 AM
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From: Might as well be underwater because I make less drag than a torpedoE (no aero bars here though)
Originally Posted by my58vw
I have found the "perfect" power wise seat tube angle on my road bike, saddle posistion and seat tube "angle" (73 degree standard road bike). We are then looking at two factors, seat tube length and top tube length. The main difference between the tt bike and the road bike are rider posistion so lets compare simular posistions, the arms 90 degrees to body, stretched out posistion (i.e. aero bars vs 90 degree hands in the hood posistion (decending)).



Historically then I would fit in the two frames that I have, and 63 would be fine. The problem is both bikes have very long seat posts on standard geometry. This means I could ride theoretically say a 64 or 65 cm road bike with a longer seat tube and top tube with a shorter (say 120 mm) stem. This would mean that I would have a higher top tube vs my current bike. I see peoples fit where they have a bike with say 5 cm of seat post showing (very little) and a good reach on the bars (maybe not so stretched out).

Then what is the ramifications of continuing to ride a 63 cm bike vs going with a 65 or 66 cm custom bike with a 110 - 120 mm stem vs the 130 (should probably be 140mm) stem on my 63 cm bike? Will the handling be better with a shorter stem combo? What about responsivness?

Remember the bike is used for criteriums, and road races. It is not designed to be a "comfort" or century bike.

Thanks as always...
In regards to the road bike:

It sounds like you need more top tube no? Do you really need more seat-tube?

If you want a shorter stem there are two ways of going about it:

1. Get a longer top tube

2. Steepen the seat tube angle (while keeping top tube length the same) if you have more room for a set-back seatpost.

I'm doing option 1 and 2 right now. My new bike has a 57.5 cm top tube (.5 cm longer than current frame), but a 1 degree steeper seat tube angle which allows me to use 1.5cm more set-back on my seat.

Net result is that I'll be going from a 130mm stem to a 110mm stem. (.5cm longer top tube + 1.5cm more seat set-back...switching from straight clamp post to 1.5cm set-back post)

I'm confused as to why you want more seat tube? Do you want higher handlebars also?

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