Originally Posted by
tatfiend
The first Rohloff installation photo is of an installation is done on a frame that does not use Rohloff specific dropouts so needs the lomg torque arm. The second one has the cables routed down the seat stay. IMO the Civia Hyland installation is a lot cleaner than either of those shown as are the Co Motion Rohloff hub bikes. The Co Motions are also available with belt drive.
Thanks for the recommendations. I'll keep a look out for those bikes. One problem I have commiting to the (expensive) custom bike route is I have never seen one or touched one. Photos tend not to tell the whole story or even show the whole bike. I'd like to be able to see the "complete package" before punking down the money. When you are looking at bikes like the CoMotion Pangea Rolhoff, the money we are talking about is $5200 for a complete bike ($2000 for a bare frame), which is a lot to spend, sight unseen.
The CoMotion design is shown in this picture -
http://co-motion.com/blog/wp-content...b14de8b7_b.jpg
The designs that use the Rolhoff dropouts are all similar but the rotational position of the gear changer differs and this changes the cable routing as it goes to the hub. It seems this routing is important to the poverall appearance of the finished product.
I looked at the Civia Hyland frame and one big problem it has is it does not appear to be able to accomodate fat tires. I want that plush ride that comes from 2 1/2" wide slicks like Schwalbe Kojaks. <-- Oh no, here we go again.
