I give everybody that says that campagnolo indexing was bad, shimano indexing was good but as a ex racer back in the day indexing was just for people that was not able to figure it out one gear from another, neither have the sense in their hands to know if they shifted too much or too short AKA amateurs, non of the racing community i even known back in the day was using indexing because it was not quick, the darn click click can be heard from 100 feet away also, indexing system worked but in my opinion never got great in the racing community, and yes, campangolo indexing was a bad bad idea.