Originally Posted by merlinextraligh

Nope, memory is not fuzzy, and I'm not talking about integrated shifting, I'm talking about indexing itself. Shimano had very good index, albeit downtube shifting in the late 80's. At that time Campy's attempts at indexing were terrible.

Prior to 1989, I rode a bike with Campy Neuvo Record. Got a new Paramount OS in 1989, wanted to stay with Campy, and put on Campy Athena, which although downscale from Record was a new release that alledgedly was the first Campy group that actually index shifted well. It was joke. No one including the Campy rep could make it work.

It was the early 90's and the advent of integrated shifting before Campy got a gorup that would index well. They were definitely behind the curve for 4-5 years and it cost tehm a lot of life long campy customers such as myself.

And lagging going form 9 to 0 speed just wasn't that big of deal. Selling groups that allegedly index shifted that din't was almost a killer.