Originally Posted by
cheapbikerider
2ndGen, thanks for the link. The bikes look good. I know its not the best frame in the world, but its only 22-23lbs(on a fish scale), 25 with aero bars. Yes its cheap. But what makes the difference between this frame and another entry level bike frame? My main objective is long term riding. I'd like to have 105's, but how long will tiagra or sora level components last?
For what you're willing to spend, I think it's the best bang for the buck and Tiagra/Sora will last you thousands of miles.
By the time you're ready to upgrade from it, you should have a healthy no-compromise budget.
All frames at that pricepoint will be very similar. The main differences will be in geometry.
Compare the geo on the Gavins to better bikes and see how they match up.
Personally, I'd suggest you save another 2 or 300 and buy something like a Trek or a Spec or CAAD8,
but you know what you have to work with better than us, so if 400 is what you can do now,
I think that link has the best bikes for the money.