Not even close to the same thing. In that case, the price is haggled after the test drive. For what it's worth, I got annoyed at a dealership that wouldn't negotiate (just kept adding a year to the loan length on MSRP) so I went to another dealership. I didn't even want to test drive the car a second time, but they felt it would keep me in good spirits for negotiating (they actually said that) so I humored them.