Shouldn't I go all the way to the ski lifts?
John, can you map out what you are talking about?
Maybe tomorrow I can, but it's pretty simple and I think Ben knows those roads. I avoid the lifts myself, at least most of the time. It's 4 miles that gains 2000 feet with lots of 15%. Coming back down is unpleasent, too. Some people love it, though.
I don't know if you've been in that area but you might really enjoy hwy 39.