Originally Posted by sbhikes
I merely suggest that there are situations where getting the heck out of the way is not a submissive, second-class citizen, inferiority complex, but rather a rational response to irrarional motorist behavior.
My position is also that some roads are clearly not designed in a way that a reasonable cyclist can safely and/or easily travel, and in those cases, bike facilities can facilitate easier/safer movement of bicycles a lot easier than "attitude", "steely gazes" (from behind my shades, no less) and fitness (which I've got plenty of, minus the speed.)
I agree. You sound like a VC cyclist. No one said it was a cure-all.
The real dispute is which roads "are clearly not designed in a way that a reasonable cyclist can safely and/or easily travel. . . ."