Now I ride a Lightspeed Ultimate, with the 6/4 & 3/2 Ti tubing. I find it stiffer than my buddy's lightspeed classic. But that is on a 59cm framset.

Roadwarrior: there is a difference between someone buying a Legend Ti (outswide the budget of this questioner?!) and completing it with a weight weenie saving CF material and someone who buys a Al bike and NEEDS to buy the road dampening effect of CF (i knew someone would bring that up, good catch)

**BTW: this is all good clean fun. again, if this original questioner is riding on the beat up, potholed roads many of us ride on, the ride characteristics of materials become more apparent.

i really have nothing against Al and would ride a Eddie Merkyx Al frameset anytime.