Originally Posted by
fietsbob
weight is about selling bikes , after you got one, other than bragging rights, you just ride it
Not necessarily.
I'm not a weight weenie, but I do have weight budget for my bikes. I have to be able to carry them up the stairs to the third floor at the end of every ride, dog tired at the end of the workday or the end of a century. Thirty pounds is about my limit for the bike. That allows for the panniers and a few pounds in them.
My primary four-seasons commuter, the Portland, started out at 23½ pounds on the showroom floor. Rack, fenders, lights and batteries, dyno lights and dyno hub, and soon, the studded snow tires, put it right at that limit.
I truly appreciate my lighter bikes on the stairs.