Correct.

I will not participate in a 'which is better' debate.

learnmedia, you might want to add to your argument that if Shimano seems slow to adapt it is not because of a lack of ability or ingenuity, it is because their product development cycle is longer than Campagnolo or, it seems, Sram. This is why I said that Ui2 may certainly already be cooked (certainly drawings exist - anyone check patents?) but what is at issue is whether or not it will be released for 2011.

As an aside, however, if we were to talk about the technical innovation of 11spd we would have to focus on the chain. According to the engineers at Campagnolo this was the biggest stumbling block and the key to the entire 11 spd drivetrain. No point here just something to consider; Not all innovations are readily apparent.

I am no longer in a position in the industry to know with any certainty what is or isn't being released for 2011 model year but with Eurobike and Interbike down , and no news, it only leaves 1 industry show and the Taipei bike show to drop the group for 2011. The industry show in 2 weeks seems the most likely of the two so if it doesn't happen there I doubt we'll see it in 2011.