Thanks EnigManiac. Certainly, weight is not all. Mostly, it's my brain stuck in "lighter-is-better" mode as I used to road race some. I suppose I know myself though - it won't be all that long until I have replaced whatever components that I think are poor. I've done it that way on all my previous bikes and know from then that once all the other parts are perfect, it sucks to have a frame that is too heavy.

I read in an earlier post by you that you had tried both the Kona and the Nirve choppers. How did they compare weight-wise? I would suspect that the Kona is slightly heavier due to the enormous forks, or is that just my mind playing tricks on me because I want the Nirves to be lighter?