No and that wasn't my point. It just amazes me that after nearly 3 decades in the peleton it took that long for a Shimano equipped bike to win the TdF. The odds would seem to be in their favor long before that.

Hey I love Shimano, as guy who's own's two Campy 10s bikes I think DA actually shifts a bit better than Record (I've had the chance to ride DA for an extensive length of time). However the two things that I don't like are the hoods (they don't fit my hands very well) and the cable routing which I find to be quite ugly. The hoods issue is the real reason I put '04 Record and Chorus on my two LOOK's. Other than that I think DA is just fine.