Maybe I should mention that I'm in Los Angeles and it doesn't really rain too often or get cold enough for all that warmth. On the coldest day I thought I'd need some warmth and gave up on that in mile 1. I maybe use my covers once every 2 weeks when the weather is at it's worst. I pull thee covers out with my cut off rain pants and roll. It's raining like hell this week for Socal. 6 days of rain in a row! And then it will only probably drizzle a little here and there. with a low of 51. far from freezing.