Originally Posted by dwmckee

I use a two legg Esge kickstand on our tandem now and love it. And I am a person that swore I'd never use one for 35 years. The esge holds the rear wheel off the ground like a motorcycle stand and the bike is completely vertical so no lean to worry about. Front wheel can turn either way without affecting balance and as long as panniers are roughly balanced in weight it is stable as heck. Now I feel kind of dumb for spending 35 years looking for trees to lean on or lying it down and scraping it up that way. I used to think good bikers would chuckle at me if they saw I have a kicksand. Now I laugh at them (and leave many eating my dust,,).