Thanks for all the responses everyone. I'm a 25 year old female I commute on my bike, and am not interested in 853 to make me faster, or to be extra cool. I'm just curious and yes I know there are more important parts on a bike. I currently have an old steel frame, and wanted to test ride a 853 frame and see if I can tell the difference, if any. I'll see if I can get my hands on a sprint, or similar road bike.