Originally Posted by
chipcom
Excellent point...it's not the vehicle that limits one's freedom, it's the sprawl and the car-centric culture that created it.

So the real question is not how high does the price need to go to get people on bikes but how high does it need to go to change the way our society is organized. When we moved from horses to cars, it took a lot of time and innovation. Moving away from cars to something else will also require a lot of time and innovation.