Originally Posted by
Wogsterca
It's possible they are dealing with some of the new steels, like Reynolds 953. For those that don't know these steels are very strong and very tough, so they can make frames as thin as beer cans, it's lighter, it's stronger and is challenging CF for weight.
My (limited) understanding is that those steels are about the same weight as Ti frames...unpainted...and while insanely light by our standards, aren't challenging CF any time soon.