Sounds, like they were a bunch of d***s anyway and you're better off not going back there anyway.

I also came by my fav LBS today, showed the owner this thread It turns out they have relationship with Sun and he can get me this bike when it's available! He was very intrigued too, haven't heard of this bike yet. He was able to find out that it'll be available in March and the frame is 17.5" one-size-fits-all, like Yuba Mundo.

I'm totally putting away any Big Dummy plans until I have concrete specs on this frame. This bike can be a huge hit this year.

Adam