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Old 01-16-11 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Foster
Can we see any examples of this class warfare happening in places that are not car centric? Maybe in Kenya? I am pretty sure they rely on bicycles, mule pulled carts and mass transit with very few cars and yet there is Kibera. It was the public themselves that decided what form of transit they wanted, there is no single example anyone has given to date to show people didn't freely decide on private transport as something they wanted. They weren't forced to get a car and they weren't forced to support the building of roads.

The very same public that decided to buy cars and support roads are the ones that pay the lion’s share of the taxes that support libraries, mass transit, welfare, public schools and many other services to the class they are supposed to be at war with.

The philosophy that cars are the cause only works if places were cars and not central to living can be shown to not have the same class problems. If they do then the cause is something else and no matter how much we dislike cars we have to look somewhere else for our class war. There is nothing strange about how this is going. It is simply a case of things not going the way some people wanted and frustration about that outcome.

Those who earn the money pay the taxes. Those who vote elect the representatives who promote what the public wants. There is no crime or moral dilemma about buying what you can afford if indeed you have worked for it. There is no moral ascendancy for any to condemn someone else for buying what they can afford and it is not the fault of those who can afford a car that there are some who cannot. It is not the fault of someone who can afford to live in the Suburbs that some cannot. It is not the fault that some may live in security developed housing be it apartment, condominium or home. It is just how life is. In every race there are people that finish in front of other people. Doing away with suburbs, cars, protected living and executive salaries will not change that. It didn’t change the class war in the Old USSR. It didn’t solve the problem in Cuba and it isn’t working in China.

So the question comes back to where and in what society do we see a place where this class warfare doesn’t exist?
Hi Robert,

Because you previously want to compare class warfare to genocide I have no interest in further discussion of this with you. The conclusions you, hopefully, fail to see by asserting that analogy are disgusting and totally out of context.
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