Originally Posted by
Brian Ratliff
Torque specs are so that threads on the aluminum bits don't get stripped. Has nothing to do with carbon bits being crushed.
Think about it... why would the torque spec, supposedly for, say, protecting a carbon steering tube, be printed on the stem? The stem doesn't know what steering tube it's going to be attached to when it leaves the factory. It's printed there so you don't strip the screw threads out of the stem. Has nothing to do with the steering tube. Ditto on the other bits that have torque specs written on them.
You can achieve the same thing by learning how to tighten screws without stripping the aluminum threads. You protect the carbon bits by not be so overzealous with the torque. Tighten just enough that things don't move when in use. No more, no less. If a joint is held by multiple bolts, make sure to tighten each bolt evenly. Quarter turn on one bolt; quarter turn on another. Work your way around so the stress on each bolt never varies too much. This is important always, but is extra important with the carbon bits. Much more important than torque specs.
And if your seatpost keeps slipping even after tightening things down, you likely need a shim. For God's sake, don't just continue reefing on the thing. Seems like most carbon bikes do, nowadays; the seat tube is so thin the manufacturers have less dimensional control over it. You can't risk the seat tube ID being less than the seatpost diameter, so they err on the larger side.
Originally Posted by
JTGraphics
I agree a torque wrench really is not needed but some people just don't have a fill for tightening bolts! I know I have seen it
I have been turning wrenches a long time and really don't need one for small stuff but still will take it out once in a while.
I also want o add do yourself a big favor and get some carbon assembly paste and use it! brand not important just use it on your carbon bits and you will not need to over tighten to keep things in place.
I'd pretty much agree with both of these posts.
I have a torque wrench but I rarely bother to use it.
I've built bikes up from the frame, and installed lots of stems and handlebars, without using a torque wrench, and never cracked a carbon component.
Use carbon assembly paste, and tighten the bolts snug enough so things won't slip and you'll be fine.
One thing to realize is that the specs on bike components are for maximum torques. So it's not like you have to hit a precise torque range. You only have to tighten the bolt enough to hold without exceeding the maximum tourque. With a little experience, touch, and judgement, you can do this without a torque wrench.