Originally posted by Hunter
Yeah and so.......Giant makes alot of people's frames so does Kinesis, and Kalloy, and KHS. however haro specs the tubing the butting if any and the geometry etc, etc. So they may be made by Giant but they are NOT the same.
Just because someone specs a tube doesn't mean that is what they get from the builder. A friend of mine was one of the head engineers at GT and he said that was a major problem with having Taiwan make bikes for GT. He would spec materials and he would get back whatever they felt like giving him. Spec'ing something has nothing to do with delivered product, especially if you do not have a rep standing over the builders shoulders every minute - especially true when manufacturing overseas..........