ok, sorry i started the fat fight of mtb vs. road cleats. carleton, as always your advice is knowledgable and much appreciated. but i have my heart set on sidi D5's and seeing as how everyone says it's an opinion thing i think i'll try the mtb setup on my fixie commuter and put some road cleats on my lemond tourmalet and see which one i like better. but out of curiousity, carleton, what's your preffered road setup?