Originally Posted by
fotooutdoors
Surly's site lists both the CC and LHT as having 45mm tire clearance with fenders. I think it all comes down to your riding style and how else you wish to use this bike, as others have eluded to. Having only ridden the LHT, I can't comment on my personal preferences, but then, they would still only reflect my personal preferences.
That is good news for OP. I don't have a LHT either, but after riding a touring bicycles i find them a good option for getting from a to b.
Originally Posted by
tjspiel
I think either bike can make a great commuter, it all depends on what you're after. I do see Cross-checks all the time in the winter and one of my coworkers has one set up with rack, panniers, 35mm studds and fenders. Maybe the LHT would make a better winter bike, -don't know. As far as riding with loads is concerned, last year I put a rack and panniers on what is essentially a low end racing bike. With 15 to 20 lbs. stability and handling weren't a problem but panniers did sap most of the fun out of that bike.
In our garage is a Univega sport touring bike from the 80's. No cantis, but it does have long chain stays. It's a very smooth riding bike but it does take a little bit more to get it up to speed and keep it there. It's a great bike for a long semi-leisurely ride. But if I'm in a hurry? It wouldn't be my first choice. Like I said, it depends on what you're looking for.
Yeah.. once you add a rack and panniers, people should forget most discussion about bicycle weight. That is why, when sporty and fast enter into this discussion, you should for sure be speaking about a bicycle you don't plan to use panniers(or for that matter studded tires) on, they're not aerodynamic and typically contain heavy things... better to get a relaxed style frame for such applications.