Originally Posted by
allroy71
I bought mine used and I don't have them. So I guess it's okay!! Anyways, I pull my wheel all the way back. If you are running gears, you may need an old Shimano QR or DT Swiss RWS to keep from pulling the wheel forward, under heavy torquing.
I still use mine just to make sure that I reinstall the wheel correctly after tinkering with whatever...
And I HAVE pulled the wheel almost out of the dropouts during a stupid assed sprint up a hill...