everyday use though Adam, would be less versatile just cuz of the size (getting into house, appartement, car etc) I suspect that what he meant by that-or at least how I would see it and recommend. Ya, I guess a Troll type bike would be a very good option, as I am sure you can put narrow tires so it would be a good road bike too (like your Sutra) Ive seen a Sutra in a store and they certainly look beefy. there was one on sale for $1000 Can here in Mtl and that would be a great value for someone, seems like a really nice bike. Im surprised by your eyelet story, I recall reading about it. YOu sure the bolt didnt loosen and work back and forth causing hte failure?

anyway, I think for lots of people a Sutra Troll like bike would make a great choice, i personally opted for a cross type bike for being lighter and closer to a road bike in riding feel, mostly due to the weight (perhaps Sutra-Trolls are geared a bit lower, better for touring and "stuff" carrying, but mine is very capable for hills--but would need lower stuff for truly loaded in mountains, but can be done.)