Originally Posted by
noglider
...the Cross Check is stunningly heavy for a modern frame.
I reject that notion. It's not light, but I don't think it's as heavy as everyone makes it out to be. It's maybe a pound heavier than an aluminum frame in the same price range, and the fork might add another pound. That's not so bad.
Anyway, I'm not trying to bust your chops or anything. I was just surprised by the weight you posted because my Cross Check weighs around 26 pounds with rack and fenders, and I've had it as low as 21.5 built as a fixie.