Ceya, I agree. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that these frames are custom made for individual riders, so you're less likely to see really standard sizinig, ie 58x58...

I've had the best luck with the google translator as well.

"5{Q: drac_vamp stated "has this been covered before: price for hatta bb and headset in japan? used? new?"

A: Almost the same as in the states for new used depends on condition.

Go to goole and put in that name E frame bank then it states to translate this page.

Q: luckycat stated,
Yeah, but not too many. Also pay close attention to the seat and top tube sizes, some of them are a little weird. Like the 59cm gold Vivalo(#5901), the seat tube is 595 and the top tube is 525, maybe the 79.5 degree seat angle has something to do with it.

A: Like most people of the world some people have short torsos. Some are made with mistakes also. some do have steep angles .like the one I show Fixed Not Broken that had a 80 seat tube angle.

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