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Old 02-17-11 | 09:14 AM
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Bikes: Surly LHT, Dahon Jack D7 & a cheap xmart MTB

Originally Posted by az2008
I look at that from a different perspective: I think cheaper parts are on bikes purchased by less demanding, less careful, less observant riders. Those riders (their lack of sensitivity to the condition of their bike) are prone to more failed components.

Another factor is that department-store bikes aren't adjusted as well as bike-store bikes. The 3-4 I've worked with out-of-the-box had seriously overtightened axles, bottom brackets and pedals. They were grumbly and felt like turning a dial with detentes (more or less resistance at different places). I bet the bearings/races wear faster if ridden in that condition. And then, in some cases there was little grease. Or, metal shavings in the bottom bracket.

It's probably a combination of all 3 factors. Cheaper components, factory assembly that isn't re-checked like it would be at a LBS, and less-demanding riders.



That's part of my concern with common sentiment that buying department-store bikes undermine local bike shops. LBSs are selling bikes that are almost entirely foreign made. Isn't that like undermining their customers -- who could be working at manufacturing jobs making the bikes they're told they should buy to be a good member of the community?

I'm not blaming LBSes. Just saying that these things are intertwined. People who buy from department stores are undoubtedly affected by 30 years of obsessing over "free markets" that are far from free. They're the victims. I don't think we should blame them for the challenge LBSes face -- especially when LBSes are selling bikes made almost entirely overseas.

(Not that you did that. But, it's a common theme that we're not good, faithful community members if we don't patronize the LBS.).

Well put.

In my observation there are some who enjoy biking and some who don't (no matter how high-end of a bike you handout to them, they just don't enjoy pedaling. And, for those who do enjoy biking, they are amused by anything that has pedals and wheels.)

It turns out those who don't enjoy biking go to the xmart and buy a cheap bike to "try out" for fun, and of course the bike ends up in the trash a season later. [it's often abused and left outside to rot].


PS: As for "free market" and whatnot, it's a separate discussion altogether and probably suitable for the political forum, if there is one. All the US corporations are getting greedier by the day, and it's not only impacting bike shops...it's everything. From outsourcing jobs to importing cheap *****. The future is very bleak for US of A. It's truly unfortunate. (And I am not even a US citizen, yet i feel bad to see where this country is heading.)

oh well...sorry for the off-topic rant.
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