yeah...and even when times are good messenger pay is *****...San Fran has one of the most convoluted filing systems around, and sf messengers pride themselves on being able to navigate it. Lots of movement towards electric filing has cut that down, as well as post 2001 bag screening at courthouses. The only reason my company does reasonably well is because we specialize in non-standard-messenger things (like pianos). I can't remember the last time I did a court filing...