thanks guys yea this guy i sell things for was telling me he had a few bikes him and his wife had bought a wail ago and wanted to sell them, so i was like ok ill look into selling them but never jumped on it never looked at them never asked him what thay were never seen him as a rider so dident think thay were good. then it got brought up in a conversation with a friend that one of these bikes had disc breaks on it and it was a specialized. iv never owned a name brand mountain bike but allways have been in to BMX and i know thay make good bmx so i started to think more about it so i went to go check it out and i asked his how much he wanted when i seen it was brand new and he said he only road it ONCE he says 500 at first told him i only hd 300 anb he wined around alittle bit then let it go and i told him i would work out a deal for the other one so he liked the deal at first he wanted 300 for the trek and i told him i seen them online for 150-200.. so i mainly bought the bikes for me and my wife and son to ride so it dosent really matter if i make money on them if i do later one down the road if i wanna sell them but right now were are gonna ride i need to get back into it


ps.. and no thay are not stolen the guy is older and owns a few businesses, he just dosent need them/ want them.