Originally Posted by Silvercivic27

Hmm. At the same price, if road conditions were excellent, I'd go for the RS80s. I think to call them "carbon" wheels is hokey, because they're really just thin aluminum wheels with a thin carbon layer. Despite all the Mavic hate, however, I have to say that all the local guys I know with the Ksyriums have been happy with them, in particular with their durability. Again, our roads are horrendous both in terms of pot-holes, holes in general, and debris. We have a lot of steep hills too, however, so weight was more important to me than aero. For a training/everyday wheel (since I don't race), I was looking for something around 1500 gm-ish, with good durability. Aero would be nice, but I don't have the money to spend $1000+ on aluminum training clinchers.