Oh haha, how embarrassing. I didn't realize I was adding an "l" to it, thanks. Thanks for those other two recommendations, I'll look into them. I'll try out the local bike shop as well. Like I said though,I was set on Marin so I should look into other brands as well. The Novara displayed was a 16 or 17" but I know on REI's website, I can get it in 15". Would I be limiting myself with the two chainwheels on the pedals? I do plan on going up some moderate to steep, long hills. The Muirwoods I'm sure I can ride, would just be cool if I could actually stand while on it as well haha. I tried getting on it in store but I wouldn't be able to stand with it. Oh and your right about just the frame size, that's all I could judge without riding them.