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Old 06-05-05 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Lividkoi
46 x 16 for a newbe to fix gear. does this sounds right? anythoughts on what i should go with . I have a 46 tooth chainring what do you thinkfor cog size?
Originally Posted by Lividkoi
I ride in NYC. So what your saying is I should gow with say 46 x 18???
Originally Posted by Lividkoi
yeah, riding brakeless though
I personally size my gearing based on the top end speed at proper cadence that I want. A 46x16 should give you a top end speed of ~35kph (22mph) at ~96rpm with enough room for speed increases based on cadence.

In NYC I ride 47x18 or 49x16. Both are good for the city. But, in neither case am I w/o a brake. Being new to fix riding and riding brakeless is an invitation to taco a front wheel or worse in city traffic. Riding with a brake allows you to make abrupt slow/quick stops to account for the motherf****r taxi cab drivers who will cut you off in traffic and then make a screeching stop right in front of you. When you have traffic flowing on side of you, and parked cars on the other your only choice is to stop behind the cab. And in many cases you have only 10-15 feet in order to make the stop. But, if you are confident in your abilities then skid and skip away to your heart's content.

Regardless though, even having brakes doesn't prevent sh*t from happening. My last accident was on my road bike when a driver was playing cat and mouse with a taxi cab and made a left turn from the center lane down 9th Ave and cut me off while I was in the left lane. I was going ~40kph and only had enough time to turn the bike into the turn, but still wound up hitting the car at the drivers side.

Of course, many people riding fix in the city go slower than I would in order to account for the above potential scenarios.

Originally Posted by noisebeam
When people talk about spin, what kinda rpms do you mean?
For comparison, the elite riders at the Track WC in LA this past march, based on the 200m times of under 11secs and close to 10secs, and based on the gear selections of 48/49/50x14, would have a cadence of ~150-160rpms.

In my 47x18 I start to lose control above 130rpms down steep hills. I want to ride track so, I need to have a better spin. The good thing about using a soft gear down steep hills is you simulate the speed (>60kph) and cadence of a track sprint without stressing out your legs. The power comes from separate training.


Originally Posted by cryogenic
wow... I feel almost bad for considering a 38/16 given everyone talking about 48t front chainrings.
The reason people for the most part use 48/49 chainrings is that is what comes stock on off the rack track bikes or cranksets. You need to buy smaller chainrings separately. And no one other than Shimano makes track chainrings below 46T. And their Dura Ace chainrings are like ~$80 each.
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